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User Group Discussion: Importing from Student Records Systems

Last post 05-20-2008 11:14 AM by Richard Barber. 3 replies.
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  • 04-01-2008 6:20 AM

    • Lianne Ramage
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    • Organization: Blackbaud Europe, Ltd.
    • Products:  Blackbaud Enterprise CRM, Blackbaud NetCommunity, The Information Edge, The Raiser's Edge

    User Group Discussion: Importing from Student Records Systems

    Many institutes are finding it difficult to import data from student records systems with the main problems being poor data entry and difficulties with addresses and address formats. SITS seems to be the system most often used across the sector although the systems, files and information being imported to Raisers Edge vary widely. Some of the groups had brief discussions on the annual DELHI returns, this information is mostly being recorded in the students record system, with some then bringing this information into Raisers Edge.
    • University of Aberdeen shared that their IT team have created a customisation to import the file to Raisers Edge
    • University of East Anglia are investigating ways to cleanup the data en masse before bringing to Raisers Edge
    • Lianne to investigate the possibility of an integration/customisation with SITS initially

    Lianne Ramage
    European Higher Education Manager
    ___________________________________
    Blackbaud Europe

    020 7921 9612
    Lianne.Ramage@blackbaud.co.uk
  • 05-10-2008 10:46 AM In reply to

    Re: User Group Discussion: Importing from Student Records Systems

    Personally, I don't see the data quality or formatting issues that Lianne does and have been transferring data from other systems into RE since 1994.  The bigger problem for me used to be that, because our organisation creates RE records as students (and academic staff) arrive, we have different departments changing the student record and RE record independently.  For the past 3 years, however, I have frequent snapshots of both the student and RE records in a Data Warehouse in which I can run difference checks.  Those checks not only report the differences for manual correction, but also export RE import files for batch-wise correction.  I believe that some organisations have had RE plug-ins written to allow direct updating of the RE data, but I haven't found that necessary.

    We don't use SITS, and I have no direct contact with anyone who does, although I am aware of its market position.  My approach isn't vendor-specific, although one has to understand both the SR and RE data structures, but one has to do that to utilise the data in a Warehouse anyway.

  • 05-15-2008 10:37 AM In reply to

    • Jonathan Angell
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    • Organization: University of Leicester
    • Products:  The Raiser's Edge

    Re: User Group Discussion: Importing from Student Records Systems

    I've just started in my post at the University of Leicester, where we use SITS.  The problem I can see, at the moment, is that SITS doesn't appear to have the ability to record City, Postcode etc - it appears to record the addresses as Address line 1, Address line 2, Address line3 etc, with City or Postcode in any one of those fiels (well, apart from Address line1 hopefully).

    So it isn't easy to automatically extract the City/postcode/country etc without manual intervention (plus the address line 1, 2 etc need to be concatenated with "\n" to allow import into RE).  So the problem (for us at least) doesn't seem to be data entry quality, rather the ability to distinguish between fields adequetely...

    I'm thinking of producing an Excel spreadsheet to try to (semi) automatically rearrange the fields, but I think this will involve a "learning" process for the spreadsheet to learn to distinguish the Cities, Postcodes etc.

     Any other good solutions gladly accepted!

    Thanks

    Jon

    Data Management Officer, Development and Alumni Relations Office

    University of Leicester

     

  • 05-20-2008 11:14 AM In reply to

    Re: User Group Discussion: Importing from Student Records Systems

    Hi Jon,

    at Loughborough I have a similair issue to use - we have a bespoke SRS and whilst most of the transfer is straightforward I do have issues in the structure with addresses... in the SRS they have line1, line2, line 3 etc with no separate field for country or city. At present I cleanse the data using Experian to get the UK addresses into a standard format, and then feed the data into an access database where I've got a series of pre-wrtten queries to play "hunt the country" by going backwards through the data to identify the last line of the address and formatting it on the basis that's the country. It still needs a bit of manual manipulation at the end but it does resolve most of the addresses.

    Richard

    Richard Barber
    Information Manager
    Development & Alumni Relations
    Loughborough University
    www.lboro.ac.uk/alumnui
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